Post by ~*Cathy*~ on Jun 23, 2009 2:58:46 GMT -6
I wasn't really sure where to put this, since the movie's not being made currently, but it's talking about how to make a movie from the book.... so I put it here. *shrugs*
I just came across this post on my LJ flist page, and DAMN! I agree with pretty much everything in it! LOL Thought I'd share and get your guys' opinion on it. (My personal comments will be in orange.)
Here's the link to the article, it might be more fun to read it there, as they have pictures with it, and then you can read people's comments. I had to LOL at some of them. God people are soooo idiotic. LOL
www.reelzchannel.com/article/875/breaking-dawn-will-the-movie-beat-the-book
From Lion_Lamb:
ReelzChannel wrote an article on the top 10 ways Breaking Dawn the movie will be better than the book, or turn into a one way trip on the FAIL!boat. They shared a lot of my sentiments and it has some good lulz:
After Robert Pattinson’s announcement that Breaking Dawn, the fourth book in Stephenie Meyer’s ridiculously popular Twilight Saga, will hit the big screen, we got to thinking: Will it make a good movie? And more important, will it turn out better than the book?
Breaking Dawn is very different from the first three novels in the series (Twilight, New Moon, and Eclipse) and saw numerous mixed reviews during its release week. The millions-strong fan base was divided — everyone either loved it or hated it.
We’ve come up with 10 ways the movie could either rake in major box-office bucks or epically fail in a way not seen since Speed Racer dropped off the face of the planet. Even Pattinson might not be enough to save this one.
1. Bella and Edward's Wedding
The wedding and first 100 pages of Breaking Dawn is, without a doubt, the most entertaining part of the book. It’s like old style Twilight, with every character acting as they should (except for Edward and the garter ... weird much?), and the ever-present Bella-Edward-Jacob love triangle. Unfortunately, the most anticipated event since the Millennium is over all too quickly and things start to get worse as soon as our vampire and his bride reach their honeymoon destination, the Isle Esme. When Breaking Dawn is finally made into a movie, more emphasis should be put into the wedding: It’s the last time a lot of fans felt like they were reading The Twilight Saga and not some dodgy fan-fic found on the Internet.
AMEN! I loved the wedding stuff, but was kinda ticked that it was all over so quickly. And I totally agree with that last line there too.
2. The "Sex" Scenes
Yep, you read that right. Bella and Edward finally get it on, in what can only be described as the most absent sex scene written since the 1900s. The act itself is merely implied, with the only proof it happened some broken headboards and bitten pillows. Oh, and a very bruised Bella. How they’ll portray this in the movie is anyone’s guess, and no doubt complaints of abuse and domestic violence are a big fear of everyone involved with the movie. If it stays rated PG-13 like its predecessors, ardent fans of Bella and Edward can kiss goodbye to their much adored night of passion. Sorry kids, it’s still implication only.
Yep, the cockblock of the century ya'll! I still remember the initial uproar by the fans after it came out. LOL All the lovely icons dealing with said cockblock. LOL Good times. While I would hope they wouldn't get too explicit, I do hope we get to see at least a little lovin. We deserve that much at least, don't we? lol
3. Jacob's Third of the Book
Werewolf Jacob takes center stage for a third of the book in what is arguably the best section of the entire 800-page tome. He’s funny, realistic, and probably the only one in the book to actually stay in character. If you were a member of Team Edward before, I guarantee you’ll rethink your loyalty after reading Part 2. The young Jacob Black is seriously that endearing, redeeming what is an otherwise tiresome read. Look for Taylor Lautner to take center stage on the movie posters — he’ll be carrying this one solo.
O.M.G! I'm sorry, I adore Jacob, but I just kept thinking the whole time I was reading his "book" -"When will this be over?" It was tedious, as I wasn't in the mindset to read from someone else's POV. You can't give us three books from Bella's POV and then expect us to be okay with such a big section of the final book coming from someone else. I understand why we couldn't get that stuff from Bella's (or even Edward's, as some people were bitching about), but I didn't really enjoy it coming from Jacob either.
4. Renesmee's Birth
Normal births are painful, right? They hurt, they’re messy, and yet some women have them time and time again. Stephenie Meyer takes birthing to the next level in Breaking Dawn by having a giant baby literally crack its way out of mommy dearest. Bella’s spine breaks, leaving her writhing around like a beetle stuck on its back. Edward swoops in to the rescue and rips the baby out of Bella’s uterus with his bare-yet-sharp vampire teeth, then proceeds to turn his beloved into a vampire in order to save her fragile human life. PG-13? Uhh ... no, not so much.
Yeah, let's see them fix this mess that Steph gave us.
5. Renesmee Carlie Cullen
Ignore the name for now, I’ll get to that soon enough. The idea that Bella and Edward could have a half-vampire, half-human baby is absurd, but to actually follow through on that idea is not only ridiculous but unnecessary. It turned Bella into a crazy, Rosalie-dependent robot and made Edward almost non-existent (more on that later). Renesmee is an annoying character and one that I have no desire to see immortalized on a DVD disc. Her accelerated growth and intelligence could prove to be quite a problem for casting agents, not to mention the poor director who has to work with a small child. Then there’s the topic of her name: Renesmee Carlie Cullen, a mishmash of Bella and Edward’s mothers’ (Renee and Esme) and fathers’ (Charlie and Carlisle) names. Eurgh.
Ruined the whole.damn.book! Sorry, but Stephenie lost a whole lot of the respect I had for her, with this book. (She lost the rest of it with her handling of the Midnight Sun leak.) I think this was such a crappy plot device. I won't go into a rant about it, but if you'd like to read my original thoughts of the book from last Aug., they're at my LJ.
6. A Major Lack of Edward
We all know that Edward and Robert Pattinson are the driving forces behind this franchise, so what would happen if he ceased to exist for most of the fourth film? You’d have a problem, that’s for sure. In Breaking Dawn Edward is all but forgotten after the first 100 pages or so, and basically just mopes and moans whenever he pops up during the rest of the book. He’s a shadow of his former, chivalrous self and hardly utters a loving word to the girl he’s been waiting an eternity for. Summit would have to change this for the movie or Robert Pattinson may find himself strangely redundant. It’s no fun playing a vampire who’s lost his bite.
She ruined my beloved Edward! Grrrr! LOL
7. An Influx of Utterly Pointless Characters
Many new vampires get introduced during the latter part of Breaking Dawn. Unfortunately, though, none of them really do much of anything. Yes, they can be pretty entertaining at times, but they’re in no way crucial to the story development. If casting execs can only choose a handful of new characters to cast, my vote would go to Garrett, Kate, Peter, Charlotte, and Alistair. The others (yes, there are plenty more) are barely worth mentioning and should only be cast if Summit suddenly find itself with more cash, and time, than it needs.
AMEN!
8. The Absence of Action
Hardly anyone dies in Breaking Dawn. Come to think of it, hardly anyone fights or even breaks a sweat. The vampire Irina is the only fatality and, seeing as we’re only introduced to her in this book, no one really cares about her anyway. Meyer botched things up when it came to killing her characters, all of whom just live happily ever after. There’s no epic battle like in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. In fact, there isn’t a sharpened fang in sight. It’s simple: Movies need action or the audience gets bored. It looks like the screenwriter, Melissa Rosenberg, will have to do what she’s done with New Moon and tweak some scenes here and there in order to keep the fans awake.
TOTALLY AGREE! OMG I was totally prepared for one of our beloved characters to die. I'm not saying I wanted one of them to, but I was prepared for the pain. I honestly thought towards the end of the conflict it would be either Edward or Bella, and I was scared to death, but I was going to be able to handle it. And then NOTHING!! Someone forgot to tell Stephenie what it takes to make a good author. Just take the HP fandom for example. The last two books were killer (literally lol), but we fans loved it too! Some of our most beloved characters died, and while we mourned for them, we knew that it had to happen. It made us more invested in the book (the series itself), we felt more at the end. At the end of BD, while I felt a little relief that they were all still living, I mostly just felt disappointment, and an empty feeling. :/
9. Superfluous Plot Points that Go Nowhere
Bella’s power and J. Jenks. Both of these story developments are emphasized as important and crucial to the plot, yet neither really go anywhere. Yes, Bella saves everyone with her convenient shield that not even the most powerful of vampires can break, but it still wasn’t the revelation it should have been. If this is the reason that Edward can’t read Bella’s mind, I think I’d have preferred not knowing and making my own explanation — I’m sure it would have been better than a Lily Potter-esque love shield. The movie script will need to be edited better than the book or it’ll end up as an 8-hour timesink.
LAME!! Sorry, but you have to admit that Bella's power was pretty lame. She could have gone soooo much cooler. LOL I mean, I'm glad that she was able to shield them all at the end (and I did love her smirking at Jane LOL), but I think it could have been done (explained, maybe?) a bit better. More could have been done with it, IMO. *shrugs*
10. A Vampire War that’s Won by ... Talking?
When was the last time you saw bloodthirsty vampires back down because some friendlier vampires asked them to? Never, of course. That’s just not how it works in the world of the undead. They fight, they kill, then they go and toast to their night. They don’t stand around talking for half an hour before deciding they have better things to do. It’s something that can almost be overlooked in a book, but in a movie? No way. Something has to happen to keep the audience entertained, and a friendly chat ain’t going to cut it.
OMG LMAO!! Again with the anticlimactic ending, all I was left with was a "WTF?" feeling. I wanted some bloodshed dammit!! LOL I really hope they can work in a little bit of action here, and not just leave us all hanging again. It was totally lame, and disappointing. Further proof that Stephenie's not really a great author, she just got lucky with the fact that we fell in love with the characters themselves. I honestly have read fanfics that were better than her writing. That's the whole reason I've only read the whole series once. I'd rather go out there and find fics that portray the characters better.
Okay, I'll shut up now. What do you guys think of this?
I just came across this post on my LJ flist page, and DAMN! I agree with pretty much everything in it! LOL Thought I'd share and get your guys' opinion on it. (My personal comments will be in orange.)
Here's the link to the article, it might be more fun to read it there, as they have pictures with it, and then you can read people's comments. I had to LOL at some of them. God people are soooo idiotic. LOL
www.reelzchannel.com/article/875/breaking-dawn-will-the-movie-beat-the-book
From Lion_Lamb:
ReelzChannel wrote an article on the top 10 ways Breaking Dawn the movie will be better than the book, or turn into a one way trip on the FAIL!boat. They shared a lot of my sentiments and it has some good lulz:
After Robert Pattinson’s announcement that Breaking Dawn, the fourth book in Stephenie Meyer’s ridiculously popular Twilight Saga, will hit the big screen, we got to thinking: Will it make a good movie? And more important, will it turn out better than the book?
Breaking Dawn is very different from the first three novels in the series (Twilight, New Moon, and Eclipse) and saw numerous mixed reviews during its release week. The millions-strong fan base was divided — everyone either loved it or hated it.
We’ve come up with 10 ways the movie could either rake in major box-office bucks or epically fail in a way not seen since Speed Racer dropped off the face of the planet. Even Pattinson might not be enough to save this one.
1. Bella and Edward's Wedding
The wedding and first 100 pages of Breaking Dawn is, without a doubt, the most entertaining part of the book. It’s like old style Twilight, with every character acting as they should (except for Edward and the garter ... weird much?), and the ever-present Bella-Edward-Jacob love triangle. Unfortunately, the most anticipated event since the Millennium is over all too quickly and things start to get worse as soon as our vampire and his bride reach their honeymoon destination, the Isle Esme. When Breaking Dawn is finally made into a movie, more emphasis should be put into the wedding: It’s the last time a lot of fans felt like they were reading The Twilight Saga and not some dodgy fan-fic found on the Internet.
AMEN! I loved the wedding stuff, but was kinda ticked that it was all over so quickly. And I totally agree with that last line there too.
2. The "Sex" Scenes
Yep, you read that right. Bella and Edward finally get it on, in what can only be described as the most absent sex scene written since the 1900s. The act itself is merely implied, with the only proof it happened some broken headboards and bitten pillows. Oh, and a very bruised Bella. How they’ll portray this in the movie is anyone’s guess, and no doubt complaints of abuse and domestic violence are a big fear of everyone involved with the movie. If it stays rated PG-13 like its predecessors, ardent fans of Bella and Edward can kiss goodbye to their much adored night of passion. Sorry kids, it’s still implication only.
Yep, the cockblock of the century ya'll! I still remember the initial uproar by the fans after it came out. LOL All the lovely icons dealing with said cockblock. LOL Good times. While I would hope they wouldn't get too explicit, I do hope we get to see at least a little lovin. We deserve that much at least, don't we? lol
3. Jacob's Third of the Book
Werewolf Jacob takes center stage for a third of the book in what is arguably the best section of the entire 800-page tome. He’s funny, realistic, and probably the only one in the book to actually stay in character. If you were a member of Team Edward before, I guarantee you’ll rethink your loyalty after reading Part 2. The young Jacob Black is seriously that endearing, redeeming what is an otherwise tiresome read. Look for Taylor Lautner to take center stage on the movie posters — he’ll be carrying this one solo.
O.M.G! I'm sorry, I adore Jacob, but I just kept thinking the whole time I was reading his "book" -"When will this be over?" It was tedious, as I wasn't in the mindset to read from someone else's POV. You can't give us three books from Bella's POV and then expect us to be okay with such a big section of the final book coming from someone else. I understand why we couldn't get that stuff from Bella's (or even Edward's, as some people were bitching about), but I didn't really enjoy it coming from Jacob either.
4. Renesmee's Birth
Normal births are painful, right? They hurt, they’re messy, and yet some women have them time and time again. Stephenie Meyer takes birthing to the next level in Breaking Dawn by having a giant baby literally crack its way out of mommy dearest. Bella’s spine breaks, leaving her writhing around like a beetle stuck on its back. Edward swoops in to the rescue and rips the baby out of Bella’s uterus with his bare-yet-sharp vampire teeth, then proceeds to turn his beloved into a vampire in order to save her fragile human life. PG-13? Uhh ... no, not so much.
Yeah, let's see them fix this mess that Steph gave us.
5. Renesmee Carlie Cullen
Ignore the name for now, I’ll get to that soon enough. The idea that Bella and Edward could have a half-vampire, half-human baby is absurd, but to actually follow through on that idea is not only ridiculous but unnecessary. It turned Bella into a crazy, Rosalie-dependent robot and made Edward almost non-existent (more on that later). Renesmee is an annoying character and one that I have no desire to see immortalized on a DVD disc. Her accelerated growth and intelligence could prove to be quite a problem for casting agents, not to mention the poor director who has to work with a small child. Then there’s the topic of her name: Renesmee Carlie Cullen, a mishmash of Bella and Edward’s mothers’ (Renee and Esme) and fathers’ (Charlie and Carlisle) names. Eurgh.
Ruined the whole.damn.book! Sorry, but Stephenie lost a whole lot of the respect I had for her, with this book. (She lost the rest of it with her handling of the Midnight Sun leak.) I think this was such a crappy plot device. I won't go into a rant about it, but if you'd like to read my original thoughts of the book from last Aug., they're at my LJ.
6. A Major Lack of Edward
We all know that Edward and Robert Pattinson are the driving forces behind this franchise, so what would happen if he ceased to exist for most of the fourth film? You’d have a problem, that’s for sure. In Breaking Dawn Edward is all but forgotten after the first 100 pages or so, and basically just mopes and moans whenever he pops up during the rest of the book. He’s a shadow of his former, chivalrous self and hardly utters a loving word to the girl he’s been waiting an eternity for. Summit would have to change this for the movie or Robert Pattinson may find himself strangely redundant. It’s no fun playing a vampire who’s lost his bite.
She ruined my beloved Edward! Grrrr! LOL
7. An Influx of Utterly Pointless Characters
Many new vampires get introduced during the latter part of Breaking Dawn. Unfortunately, though, none of them really do much of anything. Yes, they can be pretty entertaining at times, but they’re in no way crucial to the story development. If casting execs can only choose a handful of new characters to cast, my vote would go to Garrett, Kate, Peter, Charlotte, and Alistair. The others (yes, there are plenty more) are barely worth mentioning and should only be cast if Summit suddenly find itself with more cash, and time, than it needs.
AMEN!
8. The Absence of Action
Hardly anyone dies in Breaking Dawn. Come to think of it, hardly anyone fights or even breaks a sweat. The vampire Irina is the only fatality and, seeing as we’re only introduced to her in this book, no one really cares about her anyway. Meyer botched things up when it came to killing her characters, all of whom just live happily ever after. There’s no epic battle like in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. In fact, there isn’t a sharpened fang in sight. It’s simple: Movies need action or the audience gets bored. It looks like the screenwriter, Melissa Rosenberg, will have to do what she’s done with New Moon and tweak some scenes here and there in order to keep the fans awake.
TOTALLY AGREE! OMG I was totally prepared for one of our beloved characters to die. I'm not saying I wanted one of them to, but I was prepared for the pain. I honestly thought towards the end of the conflict it would be either Edward or Bella, and I was scared to death, but I was going to be able to handle it. And then NOTHING!! Someone forgot to tell Stephenie what it takes to make a good author. Just take the HP fandom for example. The last two books were killer (literally lol), but we fans loved it too! Some of our most beloved characters died, and while we mourned for them, we knew that it had to happen. It made us more invested in the book (the series itself), we felt more at the end. At the end of BD, while I felt a little relief that they were all still living, I mostly just felt disappointment, and an empty feeling. :/
9. Superfluous Plot Points that Go Nowhere
Bella’s power and J. Jenks. Both of these story developments are emphasized as important and crucial to the plot, yet neither really go anywhere. Yes, Bella saves everyone with her convenient shield that not even the most powerful of vampires can break, but it still wasn’t the revelation it should have been. If this is the reason that Edward can’t read Bella’s mind, I think I’d have preferred not knowing and making my own explanation — I’m sure it would have been better than a Lily Potter-esque love shield. The movie script will need to be edited better than the book or it’ll end up as an 8-hour timesink.
LAME!! Sorry, but you have to admit that Bella's power was pretty lame. She could have gone soooo much cooler. LOL I mean, I'm glad that she was able to shield them all at the end (and I did love her smirking at Jane LOL), but I think it could have been done (explained, maybe?) a bit better. More could have been done with it, IMO. *shrugs*
10. A Vampire War that’s Won by ... Talking?
When was the last time you saw bloodthirsty vampires back down because some friendlier vampires asked them to? Never, of course. That’s just not how it works in the world of the undead. They fight, they kill, then they go and toast to their night. They don’t stand around talking for half an hour before deciding they have better things to do. It’s something that can almost be overlooked in a book, but in a movie? No way. Something has to happen to keep the audience entertained, and a friendly chat ain’t going to cut it.
OMG LMAO!! Again with the anticlimactic ending, all I was left with was a "WTF?" feeling. I wanted some bloodshed dammit!! LOL I really hope they can work in a little bit of action here, and not just leave us all hanging again. It was totally lame, and disappointing. Further proof that Stephenie's not really a great author, she just got lucky with the fact that we fell in love with the characters themselves. I honestly have read fanfics that were better than her writing. That's the whole reason I've only read the whole series once. I'd rather go out there and find fics that portray the characters better.
Okay, I'll shut up now. What do you guys think of this?
JK! 
